aims
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Post by aims on Apr 24, 2015 0:13:52 GMT -5
Hi! I posted this on another forum and haven't received too much helpful information... so I figured I'd try here! I know this has been touched on just a little on another thread, but I was wanting some more clarification on John Lyon's leg cues methods.
I own Lyon's on Horses... and in it he teaches leg cues for more than just speed control. I've heard his methods have changed since then and he only uses leg cues to ask for speed? I'm sure his newer material would answer my questions, but I just can't quite bring myself to purchase his more expensive manuals until I'm totally sold on the method.
I'm "restarting" a mare I just purchased and so far the JL method is going great. I've been reading a lot of articles from horsemanship101.com as well. I'm just curious... how have leg cues for speed control only worked out for you? How advanced in your training have you gone with this method? Have you taught any additional leg cues anyway?
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Post by ghostrider on Apr 24, 2015 10:40:35 GMT -5
When you say "leg cues" exactly what are you teaching? I'm not sure what it is you're asking.
John has always taught legs, (kick) means accelerator. Everything else I can think of is done with rein cues or cue spots which is the steering wheel. Clock, Calm down cue, Side pass etc..
My guys are trained this way and they are wonderful horses. I love that I can pick up a rein and think what I want him to do and he understands.
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Post by aims on Apr 24, 2015 12:20:55 GMT -5
Sorry... let me try to make that a little more clear.
From all of the recent JL stuff I've read, what I've taken away is that he teaches to squeeze/kick with both legs evenly when asking for speed. And this in the only leg cue he teaches? No kicking on one side to turn your horse, etc. All directional cues come from the reins. Is that correct?
In all reality... I probably need to purchase his actual manuals, but I haven't wanted to spend that much money on material that I haven't heard that much about yet.
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Post by ghostrider on Apr 24, 2015 22:58:18 GMT -5
You can pick up a rein and ask the horse to move any part, head, neck, shoulder, hip. All this can be done with rein. He also says if you find a better way then do it, all his training goes well with other training. If I want to teach my horse to sidepass with leg cues it still goes well with calm down cue. He is not one of those trainers that insists it's his way only.
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Post by vsolubo on May 2, 2015 10:30:38 GMT -5
I have always taught my horses to speed up, turn, even stop by my legs alone. I very seldom ever touch the reins; I use them for emergency stops/turns only. It's what works best for you, if it's confusing to you it will be twice as confusing for your horse.
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Post by ghostrider on May 2, 2015 17:46:18 GMT -5
The only thing I've had trouble with is teaching Buddy to side pass. But probably more because we haven't ever done it faithfully. He does sidepass from the ground with the touch of a finger. I need to just teach it with the leg cues since he already works off a cue spot.
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Post by Kirk Martin on Jul 17, 2015 10:52:57 GMT -5
I sidepass with both reins and legs. Some what like neck reining and using the leg on the opposite side I want to move.
Interesting how many ways there are!
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Post by ghostrider on Jul 17, 2015 14:45:19 GMT -5
I've found that using the opposite leg is easier with Buddy since he already has a spot on the flank for side passing from the ground. On the reins I open the rein where I want him to go to and close the other. He side passes really well on one side it's the other that seems to be harder. And he does not side pass as fluidly without setting him up in front of a fence or wall of some kind.
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