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Post by ghostrider on Mar 20, 2014 13:15:37 GMT -5
Kirk, why are those hip bones protruding? she looks really thin are you sure she's okay?
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Post by Kirk Martin on Mar 20, 2014 14:38:35 GMT -5
Paso hips tend to protrude more so than other breeds I've seen. She was quite thin at that point, she excessively ran up and down the fence-line calling for a stallion across the field literally all night long and had even broken out and sliced her leg on a wire fence trying to get to him. She had also given birth right before the picture was taken (the stallion across field escaped the previous year) We were feeding her twice a day (beet pulp, purina strategy, Omelene 200 and found bales of hay) to get weight on, had her wormed multiple times in case of resistant worms. Anyway, yes she has put weight back on and looks MUCH improved. Appreciate you asking.
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Post by ghostrider on Mar 20, 2014 16:52:34 GMT -5
Mine just have to look at food and they gain a hundred pounds! LOL I'm glad she's put on weight and is better. I have a friend who's mare was so bad when she was in heat they tried the ceramic marble and hormone treatments and nothing worked they finally spayed her. My friend said it was a success.
I went out and decided to ride. Brushed Buddy and he was really shedding hard. From my door, the ground looks like someone dumped powdered sugar by the horse trailer. It's where I like to tie him and groom him. Did not feel like riding but felt guilty for not feeling like riding so I decided just to saddle up and ride around the property. Worked a little bit on double trekking which he works good on. Got a few steps both ways on sidepassing without using any kind of fence or wall. He was really trying though, I think he actually wanted to go out today.
Groomed both horses with the curry and the furminator. Buddy loves it he stretches his neck out a bit when you go over his neck and whither area and almost arches his back when you hit his rump with it. He's so funny this horse has the same temperment as an english butler!
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Post by cyndi on Mar 20, 2014 18:03:37 GMT -5
I noticed Relen's hip bones as well, and was going to ask if she was an older horse Fanny is like GR's horses - she could gain weight from eating toilet paper! Glad you got a ride in, GR! M texted me this evening, letting me know that she has a client coming in tomorrow morning. That's okay, because it doesn't interfere at all with the time I was planning to go to the barn. She was wondering when I wanted to book another lesson. Funny thing is that I had meant to text her today to ask when I could have another lesson! lol We might do it tomorrow when I'm there, otherwise we'll book it for next week.
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Post by ghostrider on Mar 20, 2014 20:46:53 GMT -5
That's great cyndi. I hope you have a good lesson. Buddy has no hollows on his butt! I don't think Boomer does either both have marshmellow butts.
After I groomed Buddy I got Boomers halter and headed out behind the corral to get him. Diesel decided to "help" round him up but Boomer was having none of it. He ran and bucked and struck at Diesel in play and the three of them ran back and forth (Buddy with only half the energy)till finally Boomer made an error and went running into the corral all huffing and snorting. I got to the gate about the time he turned and started back out and blocked his way. GAME OVER! LOL He was all sweaty when I groomed him and without all the fluff he actually looked like he lost a bit of that winter fat. He's looking less pudgy and more horsey. I love that he gets so slick in the summers here.
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Post by horsespoiler on Mar 20, 2014 21:16:20 GMT -5
I don't think mine even have to see the food. They are so fat I've had trouble finding girths and breastcollars to fit. I have even cut back on feed now since it isn't very cold. I think Whitey makes up for it with barn wood. We can't get those panels soon enough to suit me. I may still need to treat some areas as I have noticed teeth marks overhead. GR what was that hot pepper sauce called and where did you get it? The ground here is still too soft and slippery to work the horses in the RP, even if I had enough panels to put it back together. I could try lungeing on the road but I'm not to optimistic about that. Whitey needs to be worked before I ride her since she has been idle so long. If I got her going she could run for miles.
I downloaded paint.net to resize photos. It works great and is free. It's kind of a poor man's photoshop as it lets you put down layers to edit pictures as well as resize and crop.
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Post by ghostrider on Mar 21, 2014 10:37:48 GMT -5
It's called fire something or hot something, got it from a feed store in WY and is cayenne pepper. I mix it with dish soap and water and brush it on the wood. Some people use the cayenne out of the spice section or a hot sauce in a bottle. The cayenne from the spice section didn't work for me but maybe if I'd mixed it with hot sauce like tabasco it would have.
here it is... It's called Flame N Hot by NaturVet and was $9.79 for 1 lb. The bottle says you can put it on bandages not directly on skin...DUH and can be mixed with detergent and water. Must be where I got the recipe? I was told on line to mix it with dirty motor oil. YUCK
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Post by cyndi on Mar 21, 2014 18:00:35 GMT -5
When Fanny had "laminitis" two springs ago, and was confined to her stall until I built her a dry lot, my barn owner used creosote in her stall to keep her from chewing around the window. I cringed at that, but what could I do? You can't even buy it anymore, but he had a big metal 'jug' of it, so who knows how long he's had it? I could hardly walk into the barn without gasping at the smell, so I can only imagine what Fanny felt like inhaling that all day...never mind 'eating' it. I rode Fanny today!!! M kept the rope halter on under the bridle, so that she could hold onto the lead line until I felt good enough to venture out on my own, but that feeling never came. I just felt safer having that 'life line'. Oh well, at least we still did some trotting I'll write more about it in the chicken coop.
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Post by horsespoiler on Mar 21, 2014 21:55:04 GMT -5
Cyndi, good for you! At least you have re-mounted Fanny and that is a start. Sometimes I wish I had someone who would keep Whitey moving in the RP so I could just concentrate on balance and feel.
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Post by cyndi on Mar 22, 2014 7:49:54 GMT -5
Exactly, HS!! I totally agree. I need experience in order to get better, but it's hard to be directing Fanny, keeping her moving, and concentrate on balance and feel (to feel that rhythm and get in sync with it) all at the same time. M is putting in a round pen this year, which will help a lot. I'm not comfortable with keeping Fanny moving 'on her own' in the arena, but in a round pen I'd feel better about it because she really can't go anywhere.
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Post by Kirk Martin on Mar 22, 2014 12:05:52 GMT -5
It's also good to have someone watch you do the round pen as I found out today. I was really trying to minimize my movement but my friend advised me that I wasn't facing his hip and behind but rather was a bit forward of that and was causing him a little confusion. He still did amazingly well though. Tried his new Courbette bridle on today and it fit beautifully. I was scared that I'd have to buy a cob bridle and switch out with horse browband and noseband but lucked out that the full horse worked perfectly! Did some rein work in the round pen today and he's got those cues down even the backing up. He stood still for 30 minutes while I brushed him down with no lead. He still is a bit jumpy at times but has really settled. Read an interesting article on how to look at eyes of horses to determine their temperament. Perfectly round eyes with no creases or wrinkles around is low key; horse with wrinkles behind eyes is a bit wary and horses with somewhat pointed angular eyes at top and wrinkles all around are the most wary as they're always looking out for something to jump out at them. Valeroso is a toss-up between the last two.
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Post by cyndi on Mar 22, 2014 14:54:00 GMT -5
It's a good thing to have another set of eyes...even when they tell us things we might not want to hear! lol Doesn't mean we don't NEED to hear them (speaking of myself here), but sometimes it's hard to take That's interesting about horse's eye shape. I find that kind of stuff really interesting. Linda Tellington-Jones has a book called "Getting in TTouch with Your Horse", and it is really interesting. It's full of photos and detailed descriptions of physical traits, and how those traits correspond to certain personalities. She has been wrong in her assessments very few times. When I studied photos of Fanny and compared her traits to Linda's descriptions, it was bang on. If you ever want to post close-ups of Valeroso (one from the front, with the forehead showing, and one of his profile), I'd be happy to go through the book and tell you what it says. It's time-consuming, but fun to see if you'd agree with what Linda says. Your avatar would be good to see what she says about what a horse's conformation says about their personality, too. She covers everything, and then some. lol That's great that Valeroso stood so well while you groomed him! Fanny has never really liked being groomed, but she's gotten better. Yay, that the bridle fit so well!! That's always a good feeling
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Post by ghostrider on Mar 22, 2014 17:34:17 GMT -5
I never understood why they have pony-cob-arab-horse but what happened to bigger than horse smaller than a draft? LOL Glad you have a normal sized horse Kirk, the last size really sucks!
I love working in a round pen, the boys are lucky I don't own one.
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Post by Kirk Martin on Mar 22, 2014 21:49:39 GMT -5
I saw "Oversize (O/S) on a few bridles. Maybe your horse just needs to go English... Just keep the Western saddle though, the silver is stylin'.
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Post by ghostrider on Mar 22, 2014 21:58:19 GMT -5
The problem with English is they have that nose band on them and Buddy would probably not fit his nose in the band either. He doesn't fit in a regular halter unless it has the adjustable nose too. He can fit in the 1100-1700 lb halter (XL) but you have to adjust the nose and live with the fact that it comes up his nose to the cheek bone. For once I'd love to find one that didn't rub that bone. If makers realize they need to include a buckle at the nose part then why haven't they figured out they need to make the side pieces 2" longer? I have to be really careful not to let the halter rub the cheek bone. The problem with the draft halters is #1 they make them with a thinner nylon (don't ask me why?) #2 they don't make them adjustable at the nose! and most of the time the draft ones are UGLY blue with white stripe or UGLY green with white stripe.
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